User talk:Geo Swan

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— Factsfirst (talk) 12:56, 8 March 2024 (AST)

Registration latency

There was a latency, of about half an hour, between when I registered this ID, and when the confirmation link I received by email started to work. — Geo Swan (talk) 10:52, 8 March 2024 (AST)

Hi, Geo Swan! Sorry to learn about the latency. I will report it to our tech. — Factsfirst (talk) 12:56, 8 March 2024 (AST)
  • Hello!
I got your email. Sorry, the confirmation process you suggested won't work, because it required using wikipedia's email this user feature.
The wikipedia has the wiki equivalent of an auto-immune disorder, where out-of-control elements of its quality-control side attack perfectly healthy elements of its article creation side. An out-of-control administrator told some wildly untruthful claims about me, and rallied a platoon of meat-puppets, to get me community banned.
I still can't believe it. Consequently, I can't use wikipedia's email this user feature.
Cheers! — Geo Swan (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2024 (AST)
P.S. Does the Justapedia have an email this user feature? If so you don't seem to have registered your email for it to use. — Geo Swan (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2024 (AST)
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Ok - check your upload ability now. Happy editing! Justme 💬 📧 10:27, 9 May 2024 (AST)

Citation issues & using your sandbox

Hi, Geo Swan!! Do you see Sandbox in the top menu where your user name, etc. is located? I'm wondering because of all the sub-articles you created in your user space outside your sandbox. Also, do you have access to the citer link? If not, let me know. Citer uses the exact format needed for our citations, which saves me from having to make corrections. All you have to do is paste the url into the citer tool, and it generates 2 styles of citations. Choose the 2nd style as the 1st one is the shortened version, the 2nd one has what we need. Justme 💬 📧 13:29, 28 July 2024 (AST)

Hello!

Hello it's Dove! --— LeicesterLass (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2024 (AST)

Oh, Hey!
Do you think any of the things you would like to write about will fit here?
I am going to remind you that, even though I am not your demographic, I am happy to look at any videos you make, or any other new media, so long as I don't have to sign up for new social messaging systems to do so.
Cheers! — Geo Swan (talk) 20:12, 31 July 2024 (AST)
I'm creating new articles including biographical people via article creation process. I think it will take four days before I can move pages from drafts to main space. I tried review process but there was a technical error with the CAPTCHA image puzzle. Also Justapedia is different from WikiAlpha. Do you think they would keep my article Dove Hepburn here? You have to understand they would think it's more of a fictional biography or legendary figure biography, rather than an actual real persons biography. Such as being born on 10 January 1022 and being 1002 years old and soulmate being Audrey Hepburn and having non reliable sources. Although I added sources, those sources are just random refs from the battles and conflicts articles from Wikipedia. I hope they consider keeping it and appreciate it as an art form. Also the page will probably be the longest article here. I just hope they let me work on my own bio! My first draft article I created is Joseph James Nantomah. I always write everything in my own words and never copy-paste from copyrighted sites (especially from Wikipedia). I just want a wiki that is lenient and friendly like the late WikiAlpha (before it was shut down). There is Encyc, but Encyc doesn't have all the up to date templates. I cried when WikiAlpha shut down and my article there (my hard work just gone like that). --— LeicesterLass (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2024 (AST)
  1. Justapedia is more like the wikipedia than wikialpha.
  2. Sorry, I think the Dove Hepburn article would not find a place here. I think I argued with someone, years ago, who thought it should be deleted from wikialpha as a hoax. I replied that I regarded it as a work of art -- something that was welcome on wikialpha. Over on the wikipedia I had a number of arguments about hoaxes. I wrote about several hoaxes, and defended that work from challengers who pointed to WP:HOAX. But that wikidocument barred using the project trick people into being hoaxed. It did not bar the neutral coverage of hoaxes that had been the subject of legitimate RS.

    Anyhow, I suspect that the nice people here are a lot closer to the wikipedia attitude towards pages that include fanciful aspects.

    Sorry.

    If I come across a site where I think the Dove Windsor article would be welcome, I'll let you know... — Geo Swan (talk) 21:56, 31 July 2024 (AST)

  • LeicesterLass... I just looked up Leicester -- on the route from London to Oxford, right?
Have you ever been to Hertfordshire?
Why Hertfordshire?
Most of Jane Austen's famous Pride and Prejudice takes place in Hertfordshire.
You know I was, very unfairly, blocked from participation on the wikipedia, about three years ago. During that time I took a deep dive into the literature known as JAFF - ie fiction related to Jane Austen.
I read that there were HUNDREDS of novels related to Jane Austen's work. Wrong. I am sure it is more than 10,000 novels. Most of them are terribly written.
The reason I ask how far you are from Hertfordshire is that I have considered doing a YouTube video on a (fictional) geographic location Jane Austen invented for Pride and Prejudice. Elizabeth Bennet's home is about 3 miles from the temporary home of her frenemy, and eventual husband. A prominence, with a view, she named "Oakham Mount" lies between them.
Well, dozens or hundreds of those JAFF novels run with her brief description, and make the mount the site of arguments, and reconciliations, of nice gentle seductions and brutal SA, fights, even duels, mysterious dead bodies, mysterious victims of amnesia, foundlings, rock falls and other natural disasters.
I've wondered whether the real geography of Hertfordshire is consistent with all the events, like rock falls, JAFF authors place there.
Two drawbacks to my working on this video are: (1) I am not really a geography expert; (2) I don't live near Hertfordshire, and so couldn't make a trip there to take a bunch of photos.
I'd like to ask you to consider collaborating on this video, with me. Specifically, how would you like to be the on-screen narrator of the video? How would you like to go to Hertfordshire, and take some pictures, for the video?
  • I watch a lot of YouTube videos, and I think it is fair to say that, all other things being equal, people would rather watch a video with a lovely young woman on screen, than a fat old man, like me. Some young women are so good at making entertaining or educational YouTube videos it becomes an important part of their income. There is an energetic young woman whose YouTube channel is "Felli from Germany". She came to Ohio as an exchange student, and decided to live in the United States. I think she earns tens of thousands of dollars a year from her entertaining videos. I have a friend who I have trying to help improve his English, and I tell him to watch the videos from a young woman whose channel is "English with Lucy".
  • If you put this video up on YouTube, could you start to earn a trickle of money from it? I dunno. Maybe. Jane Austen is really popular. If you followed it up with other interesting or entertaining videos could you start earning enough money that you could financially justify putting time into video making?
  • I dunno. But, it is a topic I am interested in, and I will help you make this video, for your channel, if you are interested in collaborating with me.
  • I haven't prepared a script, yet. I have done some research, looking for pictures. If you think you might be interested, I will try to draw together a script, and some photos and images.
  • Do you own a bicycle? Are you a bicycle enthusiast? Bicycle enthusiasts have prepared resources for other bicycle enthusiasts to bike on scenic paths in the Chiltern Hills. These Chiltern Hills are found across the North of Hertfordshire, and some adjacent counties.
  • Please think about this.
  • Cheers! — Geo Swan (talk) 22:24, 31 July 2024 (AST)
  • Too be honest. Nobody really edits the ported Wikipedia articles soooo. If I add like 400 sources to Dove Hepburn in four days, no one will know the difference. --— LeicesterLass (talk) 00:44, 1 August 2024 (AST)
It's really nice nice bumping into you both again! I think Dove can create new articles about geography, art, websites, and other topics. I'm closer to Dove's age by the way, and I've also been to the UK. Lots that we can work on together. — WritingSnowman (talk) 17:34, 3 August 2024 (AST)

Nice to see you here!

Hey bud, nice to see you editing here! Keep up the good work with the BLPs and interesting historical articles. Hope you have found JP to be a welcoming community. — WritingSnowman (talk) 15:08, 3 August 2024 (AST)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Geo Swan. Thank you for your work on Thomas D'Alesandro (fireboat). User:Justme, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

More information can be added to this article.

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Justme}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Justme 💬 📧 17:00, 10 August 2024 (AST)

@Justme I expanded the [[ Thomas D'Alesandro (fireboat) article. — Geo Swan (talk) 13:41, 14 August 2024 (AST)
Nice!! Justme 💬 📧 15:40, 14 August 2024 (AST)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Geo Swan. Thank you for your work on William F. Havenmeyer. User:Justme, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Try https://citer.toolforge.org/ - it's easy

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Justme}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Justme 💬 📧 17:45, 10 August 2024 (AST)

  1. I like reference where ever {{cite}} field is on a line of its own.
  2. I like reference which use {{cite news}} if the reference is an article from a newspaper or magazine.
  3. Citer lists authors last name first. I regard this as obsolete. Sorting authors by their last name made sense when documents were confined solely to paper. It is a convention that just doesn't make sense with electronic documents.
  4. A {{cite news}} reference, that uses the work field instead of the website field, put the name of the publication in italics. I like that.
  5. I've started using citer. Sometimes it fails to determine the article's actual title.
  6. Citer can sometimes parse a URL from webarchive.org. But most of the time it barfs on these.
Have you ever seen the source code to citer?
Do you know what it is written in? — Geo Swan (talk) 13:54, 14 August 2024 (AST)
Didn't mean to flood your page with canned messages. Ooops. Well, at least it confirms that NPP review is working now, except that it shows WP:NPP instead of JP:NPP (when in view source). 🙃 Citer was just a suggestion. As long as the url is included for online sources, our readers rarely, if ever, look at source code. They can just click on the link to get to the source, so does the order of names really matter? What template are you using that fills in all the blanks? The reason I recommended citer and asked what auto-fill system you're using is that we've been getting red text citation error messages in edit view. Do you not see them when you preview the page? Justme 💬 📧 16:01, 14 August 2024 (AST)

A barnstar for you!

Editors Barnstar Hires.png The Editor's Barnstar
Geo Swan, your relentless commitment to curating and refining content on Justapedia has not gone unnoticed. Your expertise and diligent efforts have greatly enriched the quality of our wiki journal. This Editor’s Barnstar is a token of appreciation for your consistent hard work, accuracy, and dedication to excellence. Thank you for being such a vital part of our community! — Shahadat (talk) 07:31, 17 August 2024 (AST)
  • Thanks!
It might surprise you, I don't ever remember getting a barnstar, on the wikipedia. — Geo Swan (talk) 01:31, 20 August 2024 (AST)

Link

Hi, Geo Swan - congrats on the barnstar! I was perusing recent changes and saw your knee on the neck draft. Good job! Just wanted to mention that you have a link in the first row of the table that doesn't point to the actual article, so here it is. Hope it saves you some time. I didn't want to directly interfere with your user draft so I'm posting it here. Face-wink.svgEdSmithton 📲 09:17, 12 September 2024 (AST)

Have a question for you

You asked if I trusted you enough to grant you more user rights. My question to you is would you consider being an administrator? You certainly have all the characteristics the JPF looks for in their leaders. Justme 💬 📧 08:51, 19 September 2024 (AST)

  • Yes, I would be happy to be an administrator. I don't know if you knew I was an administrator for half a dozen years at wikialpha, before it closed a few months ago. It was a responsibility I took seriously, even though I got very little direction from the site owner.
I think you will give me more direction than he did.
Wikialpha had very loose inclusion rules. Which meant it was a target for vandalism. For the last several years there 90 percent of what I did as an administrator there was block vandals. The two principal kinds of vandals there were individuals trying to tout gambling site -- mainly in Vietnam, and individuals claiming they were the biggest rapper and/or hacker, in the history of rapping in Bangladesh. Weird. — Geo Swan (talk) 09:30, 19 September 2024 (AST)
  • One of the vandals I had to block, or considered blocking, was vengeful Billionaire Scott Hassan. Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, and that google guy -- when their marriages fell apart they quietly reached reasonably amicable settlements with their spouses. Hassan, was not prepared to compromise with his spouse, at all. It was weird, truly weird. They were both from Stanford. She too was a tech innovator, just not as successful as he was. About six or eight years into what looked like a more or less successful marriage he announces to her that he wants her to sign a "post-nuptial agreement". It is a term I had never heard of before. Of course he had no leverage to force her to sign this post-nup, and it was clearly not in her interest. So, she declines.
Their divorce dragged on for almost a decade, last time I checked. It might still be dragging on. He pulled some nasty shit, including putting up a hate-site, against her. She hired private detectives to determine who was behind the hate-site. The firm she hired were supposed to have the technical smarts to determine this. When they failed she followed the rule, "if you want something done right do it yourself." She took a close look at the DNS records, and found her estranged husband had registered the site. He didn't deny it. He had some weird justification, that he was only making more public information he thought the public should know about her. The judge took a dim view of it. I am sure if he had asked his own lawyer he or she would have told him not to do it.
How did he become rich? When Sergey Brin and the other guy were grad students, what became the google search engine was their research for their theses. Hassan was then a support programmer for the computer science department. He was a very good programmer, and much more experienced than they were, and he re-wrote their core code, radically improving its efficiency. They invited him to become a partner, in what was then just a blue-sky idea, with no one knowing it would eventually become worth a trillion dollars. He declined. But, when they incorporated they gave him a block of stock, out of gratitude, then nominally worth, um $800. It wasn't worth very much, when he got married. But, by the time he requested the post-nup this stock made him a Billionaire. Then, with his nest egg in hand, he made some cool inventions of his own...
There is an episode of the Big Bang Theory were Sheldon decides he will stay at home, and use teleopresense to interact with all his colleagues at the University. He is going to use a robot with a screen, speaker and camera. He will drive the robot around the campus, with a joy-stick. That robotic technology is real. It was one of Hassan's inventions. It is actually much more convenient than represented in the episode, where we see Sheldon demand Penny or Leaonard drive his robot to the Univerity. The real plan was that an institution with lots of remote facilities would buy a certain number of robots, for each site. Visitors who wanted to follow a colleague around the facility, without visiting in person, would log in to one of robots that were already there. They could roll into their colleagues office, say "hello", follow them down the hall, to the lab, saying "hello" to the colleagues they met on their way, and then roll around the lab, themselves. Their robot could sit in on committee meetings. Pretty cool.
One of the issues in the divorce is that this robot invention was, potentially, worth a lot of money, and his wife would have been entitled to half. However, he sold it off, for peanuts, so she wouldn't get a big payout from it. Mean.
Anyhow, Hassan vandalized the fair and balanced articles I wrote about him and his wife. He did so at least twice.
Blocking a regular vandal was not scary. Considering blocking an extremely wealthy vandal who was being really mean to their estranged spouse? Yeah, a bit scary.
If a similar situation comes up here, I will defer to you.
Cheers! — Geo Swan (talk) 10:11, 19 September 2024 (AST)
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